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Telephone: 651-222-6968

Press 1 for Program Coordinator Shujo Brent Derowitsch and for general information, class registrations and to reach someone during retreats.
Press 2 for Executive Director Sosan Theresa Flynn.
Press 3 for Guiding Teacher Byakuren Judith Ragir.
Press 4 for Financial Coordinator Tim Perry and for inquiries regarding finance or billing.
Press 5 for Children and Youth Practice Coordinator Katharine Krueger.

To contact the Ino/Temple Coordinator, Jeff Eko Kelley, call 651-224-0489 or email

For information about membership, contact Membership Coordinator Jim Brewer at

or contact Sosan Theresa Flynn by phone or email (see above).

Office hours

We try to answer phones when we are in the office. Please forgive us if you reach our voicemail. We are all part time, but there is generally someone in the office at the following times:

Mondays, 2:30 pm–6:00 pm
Tuesdays, 9:00 am–3:00 pm
Wednesdays, 9:00 am–6:00 pm
Thursdays, 9:00 am–3:00 pm
Fridays, 2:30 pm–6:00 pm

Clouds in Water Board of Directors

Jim Levi, Board Chair
Ken Ford, Vice Chair
Dennis Tully, Treasurer
Jenny Obst, Secretary
Betsy David
Nathan Thompson
Alan Williams
Steve Wilson
Rebecca Zaban
Judith Byakuren Ragir, Guiding Teacher
Sosan Theresa Flynn, Executive Director

Board members can be reached individually via e-mail. To create a board member's e-mail address, use their first name plus first initial of their last name (e.g. JohnD, for John Doe), followed by the 'at' sign (@), followed by cloudsinwater.org. Email the entire board at

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308 Prince Street, Suite 120, St. Paul, MN 55101

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